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Item the first: Now that I have something almost resembling an outline, I'm starting to wonder if I won't be shooting part of my premise in the foot re: the living status of minor characters.

So. I'm basing the conflict in my story in part due to Burmecia's status after the end of the game. Where Lindblum and Alexandria are shown to progress to/make full recoveries, our only shot of a post-crisis Burmecia is the one shown in the ending between Freya and Fratley, and there has been no change: Burmecia looks just as battered as it did on Disc 1, minus the bodies littering the streets. I'm figuring that Burmecia was a relatively poor country before the war and would only be worse afterward. Related to this, and finally getting to my point:

What the heck happened to the King of Burmecia? Can it be assumed that he died when Brahne summoned Odin? Or is it likely he survived, like Oracle Kildea and (optionally) Quina?

Item the second: Something which has always confounded me is just what to do with Garnet/Dagger's name. Should I always refer to her as "Garnet," unless she is being spoken to as someone who would address her as "Dagger?" Is there an established convention for how to deal with characters who have aliases?

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Date: 2010-08-10 12:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lassarina
If we're talking post-game, the Queen has (in my mind) reclaimed her Garnet identity and would be thought of as such, though in moments of intimacy the playable party would likely call her Dagger (minus Steiner, and I imagine Beatrix never unbends that far.)

As far as the King of Burmecia, I suppose it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. We do know that Puck lived, so Burmecia has the option of being rebuilt. And I think Freya had decided to do that, had she not? It might also be that they were in a part of the city that wasn't as important to rebuild right away.

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Date: 2010-08-10 02:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ryuosen.livejournal.com
Well Garnet is the Queen now, so I suppose that most would call her "highness" now or something similar. And her friends would probably call her Garnet with Zidane (if he appears) bein cheeky and still calling her Dagger.

As for Burmecia, it's mentioned that Freya wanted to rebuild. Although we don't know when the scene between her and Frately takes place so you have quite room for your own ideas there. The King also survived, I think quite a few did even though the tree was split. As you can see when you visit the site if I remember correctly. But I might be an optimist.

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Date: 2010-08-10 03:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ryuosen.livejournal.com
I think you could visit the stump, but I'm not 100% sure. However some survived and are scattered over the whole world. So rebuilding is definitely possible.

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Date: 2010-08-10 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sour-idealist.livejournal.com
I don't know about FFIX specifically, but the established convention for characters with multiple names is to use the name that the character identifies with (except for dialogue, of course). So if she thinks of herself as Garnet, she's Garnet, and if she thinks of herself as Dagger, she's Dagger, no matter what anyone else is calling her. The only exception might be Zidane's chapters, if you're dead set on third person limited, and from a stylistic standpoint it might be useful to indicate the switch more clearly. Don't you think?

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Date: 2010-08-10 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sour-idealist.livejournal.com
Glad I could help! For the record, that isn't from a style guide so I guess it could be wrong, but it is based off a variety of books, mostly Tamora Pierce's Song of the Lioness trilogy.

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Date: 2010-08-10 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sour-idealist.livejournal.com
Yep, you definitely do. She has yet to write anything that isn't flat-out amazing.

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Date: 2010-08-10 08:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stealth_noodle
I never finished FFIX (got busy, couldn't remember what was going on when I tried to get back into it), but for characters with multiple names, it's all about the POV.

In your four examples above, I'd have her consistently "Garnet" in her POV chapters and consistently "Dagger" in Zidane's (aside from dialogue, of course, where her name depends on the speaker). If you think that she identifies as Dagger more than Garnet, she could just be "Dagger" in all the narration, which would probably be the most elegant solution.

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Date: 2010-09-06 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearlrose86.livejournal.com
This is quite handy for me as well. I'm (attempting and poorly at that) to write some post-IX fic as well, and Dagger/Garnet's dual naming habits always throw me for a bit of a ...loop, as it were.


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